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vengerturtle:

yep I knew I wasn’t gonna like RHaTO #0. Just…stop, Lobdell. You are the worst thing.

I’m done.

#you’ve successfully taken the Jason out of Jason

I don’t think they’ve taken Jason out of Jason, but what I think is happening is they’re trying to take Jason’s post-death/Red Hood personality and put it into his pre-death/Robin character. He’s acting very Red Hood-ish(angry, extra-aggressive, vengeful) before he went through the anguish that created the Red Hood/post-death Jason. This is either because the writers haven’t done their homework, or it’s a conscious decision to keep his personality in line with what most modern readers know of Jason’s personality.

I’m sorry, but I disagree. As vengerturtle eloquently put it, “Lobdell writes Jason like the only thing he’s ever read about Jason is all the message boards complaining about how he was always a bad kid, the worst Robin, about how he was nothing but a bad temper and an arrogant attitude. This new Jason has no depth. He’s just sucked everything good out of him and in turn it makes his relationship with Bruce lesser and really the entire Robin legacy lesser.”

Erasing Jason’s humor, warmth, and bond with Bruce denies the trauma of what he has been through. It makes it so Jason has “always” been this “bad”, and that he was “destined” to end up a “bad” guy. I’m using these quotations because this is the argument that I hear most often when people discuss Jason. Reducing Jason to a “bad” kid that will take advantage of anyone, that crosses the line because violence is all that comes natural to him, effectively files away all of the nuance that made him interesting to me. Jason made Bruce laugh. That’s what Robin is supposed to be—-the light that keeps Bruce on his path. Whether it is intentional or not, Lobdell is mangling most of the traits that I associate with Jason Todd. The implications of those decisions are gross. So yeah, I’m going to stand by my statement.

Also, it makes no sense for Bruce to take this new version of Jason on as his partner. And if there’s no difference between Robin-Jason and Red Hood, then what’s the point of his entire character arc?